Been there with you Big Dummy (which you obviously are not). I feel you brother, as do sooooooo many others. Hang in, hang out, but mostly hang on to your sanity. I'm in my mid-60's and like so many wasted my best years trying to believe the crap-truth. Finally overwhelmed, I gave it up. The result? Life is good, grand, and sadly too far gone. So be it. Make the most of your new found contentment. I wish you peace.
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Trying to live the rest of my life without being bitter.
by Bigdummy ini'm new to this forum.. i was raised in " the truth" from age six and now i am in my mid 60's.
my wife was born in " the truth" and is very strong in the religion.
i have had many experiences during my lifetime with the other members of several congregations.
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Help! I'm drowning!
by vinman inmy wife and sons don't know how far i have gone in withdrawing from the organization in my heart.
i've been faking family worship.
i got angry and almost showed it while watching the march tv.org.
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Be honest with them all.....humans are amazingly resilient. I dumped the org about 8 years ago after having been in for nearly 50 years, been an elder, M.S.----the whole sheebang. I endured hell at home for over 2 years until my wife (still in and a die-hard) finally accepted that I'm not a horrible person just because I dropped everything in the j-dub world.My head and heart now live contentedly with each other, and I haven't had a depressive episode in at least 7 1/2 years. So, just be honest with them all. It will probably be the hardest thing you'll do in your life. Drop the whole deck and let the cards fall where they may. You will experience a sense of freedom and well being that you had not here-to-fore imagined. I wish you the best. Don't delay. -
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Today's groundless speculation thread - so why would a German copilot deliberately fly an airplane into a mountain?
by sir82 injust can't wrap my head around this.
the guy (a) evidently did all of this on purpose, and (b) evidently had no reason at all to do so.. there is a huge chunk of the puzzle missing from this one (so far)..
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Depression?? The same kind as 1,000's of J-dubs feel everyday....but, mixed in with a dash of anger and hatred. OMG, what if it was found out he was a jw or x-jw.....doubt that. But, what if........ -
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Can you discredit "wait on jehovah to fix all evil" elder's padded line even told to victims of pedophiles?
by PokerPlayerPhil ini am sick of being told this same crap after decades of suffering at the hands of wicked men and women, how many of you have had to fight these irrational expectations we are supposed to grin and smile when people are actively trying to screw with us and elders say .
good it is that one should wait, even silently, for the salvation of jehovah (lamentations 3:26; titus 2:13).
my life in the organization has not been entirely bad, there were many good people and plenty of jerks like you all experienced in this adventure we call life.
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James 4:17"....if one knows how to do what is right and yet does not do it, it is a sin for him". Jehovah is thus condemned by is own word. He (supposedly) knows what is right, has the power to do what is right, and yet does not do it....at least hasn't done it since Adam and Eve screwed up (if you believe all that). Any way I look at it, The Supreme being is condemned by these words from (supposedly) his own word. -
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Shutting down the Judicial Committee "invite".
by kairos injudicial committee invitation comes, with be there or be square consequences.. ( come or we will df you ).
what are the sure fire, tested and true tactics that will keep the elders off your back?
( for good ).
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Attend the meeting with your attorney....use your 1st amendment rights; threaten a lawsuit....tell 'em call the Borg, 'cause they won't have a clue what to do. The Borg will tell 'em drop the case....there's already enough lawsuits going on. Done! It may cost you a few bucks but you'll have peace of mind and they'll never want to see you again. -
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Why a JC if the adulterous mate is forgiven?
by snugglebunny insupposing a man's wife has had an affair, confessed all and genuinely regrets what's happened.
the husband, after much soul searching and agonising, realises how much he still loves her and how much both of them want to rebuild their shattered relationship.. why should that woman then have to sit in front of a judicial men-only committee and give a blow-by-blow account of her affair?.
how would that make her husband feel, knowing that his wife is sharing intensely private stuff about her affair with several other guys?.
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Going a step further, the WT claims that once the couple resumes sexual relations, there is no second thoughts....it's a done-deal of forgiveness. I faced that as an elder sitting in on these situations and never understood the reasoning behind that. Personally I felt that a man or woman who had a cheating mate might not realize how much they love (or hate) the guilty party until they do have sex again....intimacy might be the make-or-break facet of the marriage. I never found any scriptural reasoning behind this dogma either. I have regretted and wish I could go back and un-do all the stupidity I was part of being an 'elder' and on judicial committees. Hindsight is 20/20. -
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JW.ORG advertising on game/app review program.
by WHATSGOINGON ini don't know if any of you have seen the video posted by mike and kim regarding jw.org advertising on a thailand computer game review television show.
its interesting - check it out.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57nigmnim18.
the show is called game show social - i looked at a few of the videos and jw.org is on a lot of them.. at first i thought that it was a review of a jw.org app but when you look at other videos jw.org is on a lot of them as a sponsor as well as dell lg and others.. wgo..
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I just went to the link and its.....GONE......geeeez, I wonder who ordered it gone??? This is one of those things that is so freakish that I find it actually is hard to believe. However, until it's proven otherwise, I'm believing it is true. -
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I'm Ready... Thank you
by Garrett inhey guys,.
so, something amazing happened recently.
i recently met with an old and very good friend of mine.
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Whether you do or not, it is certainly your choice....but HOW you do it can be your choice too. I have seriously thought about writing a letter to the editor if I were to choose such a course. The letter would be formatted in such a way as to also be something of concern to the community. Otherwise it is very unlikely it would be published. Then, anyone could read it and there would be no speculation about any other reason besides the real one for your having made this decision. And as a bonus, maybe (a big maybe admittedly), someone will read it and it may be the start of their exodus. Kill 2 birds with one stone perhaps. My2c. -
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What did you become after leaving Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Garrett inhey guys,.
so, since my leaving i have been doing so much research on so many topics that it's been extremely enlightening.
not only have i learned a lot about the organization and what motivates it, but i have also learned a lot about the bible, god and most importantly, myself.. currently, i'm not quite sure where i stand, but i'm having some real issues with the bible and god.
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My 2c: The Bible was intended for 1st century Christians to find their way to heaven....for us it is not much more than a read....maybe a good read for some, a waste of time for others. I believe in God, but find him to be apathetic to the world we live in and it's problems....otherwise he would solve them. See James 4:17."if you know how to do what is right, yet do not do it, it is a sin for you"....I am currently trying to figure how that scripture plays into Jehovah being a God of love.....
What to do? Be as happy and content as you possibly can where ever you are in your life right now.
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They have been caught as liars either way they go now...
by Aussie Oz ini was talking to my daughter yesterday about the wt and the wwc case in victoria and i explained this to her..... for well over a hundred years the wt/ jws have been declaring the fds to be a real tangible person/s.
a body of christians, the remaining ones of the 144,000...etc etc.
(we all know the story).
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Thank you 'tenyearsafter'.....I'm a bit of a newby to this whole situation, but am certainly glad to be aware of it before any major media picks up on it; should that happen, and I hope it does. I now anxiously await November 8th (?) in Victoria, Austrailia's judicial system. I pray now that honest-hearted ones --JW's or not-- become aware of this with an open mind. It amazes me that so many fail to differentiate between Jehovhs Witnesses and Jehovah God.